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Beltzville stocking
August 31, 2004
3:37 am
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I just got an e-mail from Tom at Pleasent mount hatchery.They will be stocking Beltzville this thursday sept 2nd,around 10:30-11:00.This is VERY short notice.I can only hope we can get a couple of boats there.I'll have to beg and i dont know if that will work.We need buckets also and i dont know how thats going.Lets see what we can do.Sorry.Bob

August 31, 2004
11:59 am
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hey bob do you know what ramp they are going to .

August 31, 2004
5:51 pm
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I'd take a day off if I could but I'll be in Chicago. Hopefully the next time will work out. Sorry.

Chad T

August 31, 2004
8:29 pm
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50/50 Ill be able to help on this one. I do have buckets and a few large rubbermaid storage cans

August 31, 2004
8:34 pm
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I'm going to the river wed nite, are they going to do this the next stocking?

August 31, 2004
9:55 pm
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I'm in,the burial bussiness has been dead "literally".the boss was glad to see me go.plan to make a day of it.will see if the old man on the mountain will come down to fish.

matt,if you cant go.bring your buckets to the meeting.I should have about ten,and don't know if archie has any.

September 1, 2004
3:10 am
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Tom sabia has told me he has around 20-25 buckets he will be bringing to this months meeting.I still am not sure if i can make it or not.Doing this on a week day is understandable.The short notice makes it VERY difficult for alot of us.It realy is a sin.Beltzville is one of the lake i think can benifit the most from this program.Bob

September 1, 2004
3:30 am
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Something else that might be worth considering in future years is trying to get the PFBC to delay stocking muskies until later in the fall.  Then they are a little bit bigger, and the food chain is slowing down so the largemouths won't get as many.  The Three Rivers Chapter did something like this several years back where they covered the PFBC's expenses to hang on to the fish a little longer.  Next step is finishing them on minnows.  If my memory serves correctly, both things greatly improve their survival.

As it is, float stocking them is a great first step.

Chris

September 1, 2004
11:01 pm
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:'( Wish I could make this one, but with a weeks worth of vacation in two weeks, I've got work to do.

Arch, you can pick up my 40 gal. barrel for one of the guys to use. Combine that with a nice, large, soft bait net that I have and you've got the perfect stocking setup.

Capt. Dieter Scheel    http://www.BigDRiverGuide.com

September 2, 2004
9:51 pm
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where do I start? We are stocking them now because the forage supply is running low. Sorry about the short notice, my fault. We have never had anyone show this kind of interest before and its not as easy to set up as it might look! The musky have been on forage and dry food for over thre weeks, to put some weight on before releasing. This also trains them to hit moving targets. We will be stocking Nockamixon soon and Ill try to get more advanced notice for that lake. The Delaware has recieved some fish and will get some more but I wonder how much effect you can have spreading them out on the river. We hit multiple access areas when we do the rivers. Thanks for todays help!

September 3, 2004
2:17 am
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Tom,thanks for letting us float these fish.We would like to do this every year and are going to fine tune our methods to make this program as effective as possible.Today went fairly well but i know we can fine tune what we did today and do better.55 gallon drums are on order and Archie and i are working on an aeration system.We will be able to keep these fish on the boat longer meaning we can spread them out better.Some of the tigers today were released at the ramp.When Archie retuned to the ramp later in the afternoon,he found these fish were being chased by something.Float stocking these fish WILL HELP.Thanks again Tom, and thanks to the guys who participated.I know the short notice made it tough.Things are looking up for us.Bob

September 3, 2004
2:46 am
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bob and all muskie 50 guys

keeping bait alive is vital to my success as a guide. i have tried everthing (believe me) and this is what i found works trhe best and for the lobgest time periods - many probably know this already but some folks may not.

first:

the big misnomer is that if the water temps are low the fish will live longer due to a decrease in metabolism. sounds good in theory and is correct - right?

well, how do we (in summer) decrease their metabolism? we throw ice in the bucket. Ice cools down the water etc.... This is absolutelty the wrong way to do it. As ice melts, it takes the vital oxygen from the water. no oxygen=dead fish

i have also experimented (with great expense) PURE infused oxygen systems. it helps to keep bait lively just prior to fishing but we just want to keep them alive long enough to stock. in the end, it cost to much for the average guy to invest in the proper equipment to keep fish alive. if doing it everyday, that is one thing.

may i suggest just utilizing a large drum and exchanging the water consantly. Either 5 gallon buckets of fresh water or a venturi style system of constant running water will suffice even if water temps reach the mid 70's.

i would get some good pumps and build them into the drums. done deal

By the way, i can get drums for free

my 3 cents worth

September 3, 2004
3:13 am
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I'll call you on this Chris.It seems to me float stocking could be an important piece to our puzzle in PA.Say that three times fast.Talk to you soon.Bob

September 3, 2004
3:58 am
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what if we were to build rectangular cubes out of pvc.add foam around the top for floatation .cover outside with mesh netting.they can be tied off to a boat.,and slowly motored to verious spots.and may be beter cost effective than the pump circulation.

just a thought.

September 3, 2004
7:15 pm
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Hey,

Good pic Arch, but where's the cover they were supposed to hide in? And is that a floaty I see there in the lower left hand corner?
Seriously, hats off to the guys that were able to take part in the effort and, with advanced notice, I hope to be a part of the next one.

DL

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September 3, 2004
10:59 pm
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good thought muskiechuck but the issue with a rectangular tank is that fish will run their noses into the corners and could eventually die. when there are many fish in a small area, they get excited, aggressive, antsy etc.. and they move around quite a bit. round buckets keep em moving in a safe circular motion.

the netting idea is great for fish safety but the drag of the contraption is too great and the unit will break. plus, these lakes are way to big to go slow.

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