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1:48 am
sorry this took so long,was a very hectic week for me.
MI - 50 Meeting minutes April 6,2005
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7:30 attendance : 4 executives ,14 members
quest for new secretary: thank you Deiter Scheel for stepping up.
Quest for a rep to keep open communication with NJ game and fish. Thanks for volunteering Joe Tarditi.
Tom Sabia was named the stocking and lake development czar.
7:45 the muskie symposium: was agreed that we do not need to send a chapter member to this, instead we will try to get a Pa or NJ fish or hatchery guy to come to one of our meeting to give us a symposium synopsis.
8:00 Chapter 22 has acquired about having a triple challenge with chapter 22,50 and the knee deep club. On lake hopatcong, in the fall.
8:05 motion to have next years muskie school in the spring. Undecided
8:10 annual fund raiser raffle drawing winners. 1st place—Joh Such 2,nd place -Ephain Cardin 3rd place-Chip Miller
8:20 Lure raffle : Special thanks to Eric for donating two huges river lures to be raffled off.
Tom Long——— picked a huges river lure
Ed Myshak———picked a huges river lure
Scott Little———was chosen a ducktail bucktail
Tom Long ———picked a warner bait
Gary Turansick—picked a dupktail bupktail
8:30 meeting closed
8:31 Greg Ridge auctioned off some unique lures to the members. Thanks Greg for taking the time to do this.
1:56 am
June 23, 2004
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Deiter,email me the info of yours that you would like to have on the officers list.Joe,same for you and also call me.I need to talk to you this week sometime.Thanks to both of you for stepping up and wanting to make a difference.Bob Jones [&]]
1:51 pm
April 17, 2011
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Thanks Bob, looking forward to working with everyone on the NJ Fishery. I just sent over an e-mail with my details. Thanks J
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2:53 pm
March 22, 2004
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Hey Arch,
I don't have the exact figures in front of me but the account balance as of the end of February, I hadn't gotten the March statement as of the meeting, was a little over $2400.00. We collected, I believe, $1370.00 from the Trip/Rod raffle and another $225.00 from the evening's lure raffle.
DL
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1:49 am
March 6, 2005
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Hey Archie,
Good to hear from you again. I thought some basser had reeled you in, not practiced catch and release and made you table fare. Nice pics. Why dont you post a few more of our favorite lures inners. [&]]
5:21 am
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We should vote if WE should send 1 member to the symposium," Me and my buddy Chuck will be there anyway" but lets take a vote at the next meeting to go to the symposium. The guys who want to go put there names in and we'll pick . We could raise the money . BUT YOU HAVE TO BE AT THE MEETING TO VOTE (if you cant attend email your vote) TOM
5:01 pm
April 17, 2011
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That sounds very fair regarding the symposium, however, we need to consider the costs and benefits of attending (if we can raise the cash separately then this is not an issue). I propose that we first create an annual budget for the club. We need to have an idea of projected revenues and costs (cash raised through dues, auctions, and raffles as well as expected expenses during the year) versus actual cash outlays. To just spend money without knowing whether we can truly afford it would be negligent and I compliment Bob and Dave for being frugal with our existing monies. I was a CPA and the wife is an accountantl. I am offering free services to not only help in creating a budget but maintaining all of our finances on Quicken (that way we can distribute a monthly report to the members on the financial progress of the club as well as create a section on the website where members can view this report). This will also enable us to define how much we can contribute to PA and NJ fisheries as well as other annual expenditures on a steady and consistent basis (where it really matters and helps). I can work with Dave on getting everything automated as well as present a proposed budget to the Members (with the help of the officers). This is going to take some serious effort by all of the officers to "budget" their respective area on how much money they feel the club needs to contribute so they can be effective in their respective roles. The bureaucracy begins... yikes [[%&]]
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10:15 pm
That is some scary stuff your suggesting.It all sounds good and now that we have some money in our account,and an idea of what we can do and cant do,it would not hurt to look at this.Good thought Joe.
10:23 pm
April 17, 2011
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Thanks Bob. Maybe we can get the officers to either meet earlier / or later on a meeting night or maybe we tie in fishing somehow and have a meeting as well (true Muskie offsite). I am up for any suggestions.
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2:01 am
June 23, 2004
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Great proposals from both Tom and Joe.
I agree with Tom that, given the fact that the International club is asking for members (see this month's magazine) to attend, we should consider sending an official representative of our chapter. All money issues aside, we should at least give it some more thought.
I agree with Joe that voting to spend money on something like that at this time would be putting the cart before the horse. When we've got a budget in place we'll be better able to continue that discussion. I truly believe that this chapter will continue the kind of growth we've seen and that the budget will be an important part of keeping our focus. I look forward to being a part of the discussion.
Capt. Dieter Scheel http://www.BigDRiverGuide.com
3:39 pm
March 22, 2004
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Hey,
Thanks for the input Joe. I've just basically setup a couple of SIMPLE Excel spreadsheets to keep track of the monies that we've accumulated and distributed to this point. Of course, up to this point, there hasn't been anything too involved in the financial aspect of the club. If you think that Quicken would be a better format to use then I'd be more than happy to have your help. Thanks But I do agree that before a vote can be taken, to send an all expense paid member, out to the symposium that we need to have a discussion on what our objectives are and what they are going to cost.
Will we be more involved in the stocking efforts, a.k.a., minnows for holding over fish to a larger size; equipment needed to transport the fish in member's boats; lake/river projects such as structure enhancement, cleanup efforts; local education efforts; regional meeting and collaboration. From my perspective, these are the things that our efforts and monies should be largely dedicated to and until such time as these issues have been addressed I feel its not cost effective to send people to a symposium that will be fully reported to the chapters after the fact.
Just another opinion.
DL
DL
4:51 pm
May 19, 2004
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We discussed this at our last meeting and I thought it was the club's consensus that we do not send someone to the symposium. I don't know why it is being reconsidered. Most of the info would be over our heads and very technical. We also discussed that our local fisherie guys wouldn't want us hanging around them for the entire time.
Also, it is time that we develop a budget, since we are a non-profit group, we should be distributing the money we collect, not holding it in a savings account. It doesn't do the fisheries any good for us to hold onto it.
Barry
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5:02 pm
Thanks Joe,
if I can help I will I seem to only be good at spending money .I think we should raise the money not take it from funds already collected. Tom
11:45 pm
May 19, 2004
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Arch - I understand where you are coming from. You are correct that we need a formal method of deciding issues and budgetary concerns. I don't think that we should hold the vote entirely on the website. We have a monthly meeting and all concerns should be voted on there.
My suggestion is that we publish an agenda for the meeting on the website. If we need a vote, current members (in good standing) would vote at the meeting. Those that are not able to attend would be able to vote through the website prior to the meeting. That way we can all say (paraphrasing Survivor) that the tribe has spoken. [[%&]]
On a different note, do we have a charter? Doesn't that explain our voting and election procedures?
On a different topic but still relevant to this thread, the MI Pres wants our participation. Yes, it may advance our position with national. Yet we have a perfect vehicle to keep national abreast of our doings that is way under utilized. Every month we are invited to submit an article about our chapter to Muskie magazine. Each and every chapter has this opportunity. As far as I can remember (which gets shorter and shorter every day), we have only submitted one article. If we really want to show them what we have done and what we can do, we should use that space every month. [[%&]]
I apologize for getting long winded. It is not my intention to offend anyone, I just want to see MI50 be successful.
Barry
We may only see what we look for.
12:03 am
Barry
I agree with you on all points and it would be nice to read the chapter 50 monthly review we could ask Big D to check it out . Tom
12:14 am
What do other chapters do does anyone kow or could we ask ? Tom
3:05 am
This issue was brought up at our april meeting.When asked if anyone thought we should have someone there,only two hands were raised.Both people had good reasons, but it seemed to me,most thought it wasn't worth the money.There was even a suggestion that if we were to spend the money,it would be better to send someone to one of the board meetings.This issue has somehow found legs,so maybe we should discuss it more.Archie,in one of his post,mentioned the presidents message in MI.After reading it i decided to make a call to Greg Wells[MI pres].We had a great coversation,on a number of topics including the symposium,all of which i will share at our may meeting.We do have time to figure this out so lets think about it and toss it around a little.Bob
3:19 am
April 17, 2011
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Dave, the only difference is that on Quicken one can reconcile a bank statement to actual outlays as well as compare actual to budget and produce reports. However, an excel sheet for our club is probably just fine (based on number of transactions that probably occur during a one month period (minimal). Let me know if you need any assistance on creating a budget? As mentioned earlier if you want me to "bookeep" or glossy up a report I would be more then happy to assist. Thanks for the feedback and update. On the last several threads I think the general theme is "structure". In what structure do we have in place to effectively manage the ongoing challenges to the club? Voting, charter, etc. are all means. I think they are great ideas, however, we need to realize that these are means to a beginning and that our primary goal has to been to improve Muskie fisheries in both NJ and PA (which we have done an excellent job on creating awareness). As Kip would say from ND - peace out.
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2:54 pm
March 22, 2004
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Hey,
Joe, having never used Quicken, I would imagine that it is a fully integrated accounting package. That would be alot easier to use than for me to format each spreadsheet in Excel and then create links between the spreadsheets. Let me know if I need to go out and buy the software. As far as the budgets go, I have little experience in formulating them. If you'd be interested in taking the lead there, then please do. Sounds like a big agenda for the May meeting. Let's get this boat on an even keel and kick start it in the right direction.
DL
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2:14 am
April 17, 2011
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Dave, Quicken comes with most new computers, I would say its more of a small business / personal software program. To convert from excel to Quicken is a pretty easy process. All you need to do is send me a list of all account activity and recent bank statements or if you have access to the software it's pretty self explanatory. Let's talk off line and I can walk you through the process on creating a budget. Thanks. Joe
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