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walleye guy gets monster
September 1, 2005
2:45 pm
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September 1, 2005
5:23 pm
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Hey,

What a pig!!!! The fish, not the angler. I guess you can't argue with a walleye angler keeping and mounting what is probably the biggest fish he's going to catch but he could have had a reproduction done as it is apparent he was able to photograph and measure the beast.

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September 1, 2005
11:02 pm
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It seems like alot of huge muskies have been caught by walleye fishermen this year:
1-The Green Bay giant
2- A 50 pounder caught by an Amish guy in western PA
3- Now this pig in Tuscarora

I checked the charts and that fish probably weighed just shy of 49 lbs.

September 2, 2005
12:16 am
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What a SlOB!!! It looks more like a pure than a tiger to me.If it is a tiger wouldnt it be a state record? Gary

September 2, 2005
2:55 am
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Not sure about the state record but that is one FAT fish.Cant blame him for keeping it.Wish he had a camera and new about replicas.O well,good to see they will grow that size around here.Bob [[%&]]

September 2, 2005
3:41 am
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Gary is correct - this fish is a pure. The contrast between light and dark bars is too weak and the tail tips are very pointed. Now let's see how long it would take me to drive to Tuscarora...

Jeremy Trexel

September 2, 2005
5:27 am
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It looks like a pure but the state should know I would be surprised if it was a mistake. Tom

September 7, 2005
4:15 am
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Tom,
It is understandable that you would put more weight on PFBC's ID than on mine (I'm just an egg sack on the message board!), and I won't get into my qualifications to support my identification. However, this is the third muskie I believe was incorrectly identified on PFBC's website over the past couple years - the previous two of which I sent to a friend of mine who is a regional fisheries manager in the Twin Cities metro area in Minnesota and is very heavily involved with their statewide muskie management program. He agreed my identifications on the previous two (with complete certainty), and I'm certain he'd agree with me on this one as well. I'd recommend a careful examination of the two attachments. One is put out by Muskies Inc, and was originally a cooperative effort between MI and the Minnesota DNR. Back 15 years ago or so when you joined MI you would get a laminated card of this poster with the Minnesota DNR logo on it - not sure if this still the case. The other one is put out by the Wisconsin DNR. In both cases, they indicate that hybrids have rounded tail tips and pures have pointed tail tips. In my experience, if one is not comfortable with coloration, tail tips are very useful.

Jeremy

September 7, 2005
4:16 am
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It wouldn't let me attach the second poster to my first message, so I'll try it here...

September 7, 2005
5:02 am
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Jeremy
Thanks for the charts and I was doubting you I to thought it was a pure to we should check with PFBC and get it from them. I would be intrested to know there story I don't know if Tigers only were stocked and a few pures got mixed in we should check. Tom

September 7, 2005
5:24 am
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Tom,
I used to work at PFBC in the Warm Water Unit under Bob Lorantas, and have discussed this issue with him and other PFBC biologists at some length - not sure what they thought of my contentions in the end, but it was a good discussion. I'll say this - given where the photo was posted on the PFBC website, it may not have been looked at by one of their biologists. It may have been submitted by a WCO, the angler himself, etc. and posted to the website by their webmaster without questioning. Also, I checked stocking numbers I have up until 1998 (my last year at PFBC), and Tuscarora was stocked with both pures and hybrids through the 80's and 90's. The data they have on their website for 2003-2005 indicate one year without any muskies stocked, and two years with hybrids.

Jeremy

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