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1:54 am
October 14, 2005
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Hi Guys,
I hope you guys could help me once again, with a question I have. I'm planning to buy myself an early "Christmas" present ( Abu Garcia Ambassadeur C 4 Series Reel). I'm wondering what type of line you would suggest to put on my reel? The recommended is 12 lb./ 205 yds. What about something heavier... 50 - 65 lb. line?
Do you think the heavier line will affect the casting ? Thanks again... [[[
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TEAM BLACKBERRY
1:58 am
Hey George , The new super braids are a smaller diameter. 65lbs power pro is probably equal to 12 lbs mono which works great on the Abu reels. I use 80 lbs power pro on all of my reels which is equal to 17 lbs mono Matt Lysek
2:06 am
October 14, 2005
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Matt,
Do you think Cabela's would have the power pro line or strictly online purchase?
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TEAM BLACKBERRY
2:27 am
March 19, 2004
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I was just at Cabelas George, they have Power Pro out the wazoo! Plus plenty of other lines.
2:27 am
Cabela's probaly stocks power pro,but remember when putting on superbraid put on mono backing first to prevent the superline from digging in.Plain monofilament also works fine,try 20 to 30 pound test trilene big game,inexpensive but will get the job done.
3:01 am
March 20, 2004
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Another reason for putting backing on, or even electrical tape is that a lot of the super lines will slip on the spool. Definitely use backing!!!
2:26 pm
March 22, 2004
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Hey,
The only problem I've had with using a monofilament backing is the knot that you have to use in attaching the braided line to the mono. What knot would you use to prevent a gargantuan lump at the connection point? The one that I use to connect a braided line to, say, a dacron backing just doesn't lay as nice on the spool.
DL
DL
2:43 pm
May 19, 2004
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This is a good topic! I too have a problem with the knot when using mono backing. It interferes with my thumb while casting. It's like a speed bump!
I have gone exclusively to electrical tape.
What does everyone else do?
Barry
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4:06 pm
February 7, 2005
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I agree with the knot problem. I've had success tying braided line directly to the spool by using a small strip of duct tape to eliminate the slippage.
Fred Jones Sr.
9:36 pm
June 23, 2004
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You shouldn't be coming into contact with the knot when casting. If that is happening, you've probably got too much backing on the reel. I use a uni-knot to uni-knot connection, which keeps it pretty small, though a well tied blood knot is hard to beat for size and strengt.
I've found that the smaller reels are better suited to the 65 than to the 80lb test, since it gives you more capacity. TUF Line has worked very well for me and is the least expensive of the braids. I tried the Power Pro and did not find it to my liking. The TUF Line is much softer and lays better on the reel where the Power Pro is a harder line that tends to want to dig into itself.
Capt. Dieter Scheel http://www.BigDRiverGuide.com
10:59 pm
May 19, 2004
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I used little amounts of mono, enough to cover the metal. Maybe I should be using 6# mono as a backing? Isn't the electrical or duct tape route just as effective?
Barry
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11:39 pm
March 22, 2004
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Hey,
I've gone to Dacron as a backing because, in the event that a fish strips off all of my PowerPro line, I want something strong enough to at least give me a shot at landing the fish. The 30 pound mono that I was using just didn't bind well, in my opinion, with braided line without a nasty lump in my spool. As far as using 80 pound PowerPro, on my Abu C-4, I have absolutely no problem with casting and, quite frankly, find it casts with less occurance of backlash than the 65 lb. used to, especially when throwing a certain slab of wood that I was creating small tsunamis with over the weekend.
DL
DL
3:22 am
I also use a uni to uni knot from the mono to braid. Plus, I dont use much mono backing, so the knot is way buried under the braid. Although, anything that keeps the braid from spinning on the spool is fine, i.e .tape.
I also use to use Power Pro, but have switched to Spiderwire Stealth 65llb. The coating on Power Pro seems to go away too fast, leaving what feels like really worn line. I'm sure its fine, I just don't like that feel. The Spiderwire "feel" seems to last a bit longer.
2:54 am
January 5, 2006
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i've been using an albright knot for years when connecting any two lines
1:16 pm
April 17, 2011
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or get a different reel - the quantum cabo allows you to tie superbraid directly to the spool as does an old Penn 940. Sometimes its good to be simple. I use a uni knot to uni knot connection as well on my other reels and 14# test (I think with 6# you can run the risk of too many small things that happen to cut the line). Tried using tape a few times, not a lot of success - I feel like I don't have enough line (of course that's silly cause we know skies don't pull that much line - but a snag while trolling sure does!). <<<<><<<
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3:39 pm
This fall a muskie fisherman friend of mine suggested that since I make my own leaders by using crimping sleeves that I should try a single loop and as small of a sleeve as I can get away with. He feels that it allows him to add more backing than he normally uses. It makes sense as long as it doesn't become obstructed on the level wind. It would also be a stronger connection than a knott. Using the same diameter backing as your line would be most helpfull.
Deadeye
3:07 pm
October 14, 2005
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Just a quick update... Thanks guys for all your help, for anyone who cares, just thought I'ld let you know what I ultimately bought. Abu Garcia Ambassadeur, C 4 Series 6601 Model. I filled it with 10 lb. monofilimaent backing, and finished off with 80 lb. Power pro. I hope I'm not boring you guys, but THANKS AGAIN !!!!
George
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TEAM BLACKBERRY
2:37 am
March 19, 2004
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Nice setup George...wish I could fish the lefty reels...can't get used to it!
Chad T
3:14 pm
October 14, 2005
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same with me for " right handed", eventhough I'm right handed with everything else.
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TEAM BLACKBERRY
12:47 am
March 19, 2004
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Good luck with that Power Pro George, make sure it is on the reel very tight!! [[%&]]
2:25 am
October 14, 2005
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Talk about the line being on tight, I've already noticed on a couple of casts, that the line has "dug in " under some of the existing line spool. I had one hell of a time getting that out! Is that normal ???
Sometimes you've got to "jiggle' it, and sometimes you've got to give it one big
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TEAM BLACKBERRY
4:20 pm
March 26, 2004
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I do the electrical tape thing; I've found that a standard spool of the superbraids is just about right for a Garcia 5000 or 6000 series reel without needing backing. They're not kidding about it slipping on the spool - I thought I had a drag problem until I looked closely at what was going on.
Howard Wagner sold me on Mason Tiger Braid in the 50 or 80 lb strength. It has a little bit of dacron in it, so it has a little bit more body than the typical superbraids. I've used and like Cortland Spectron as well. I haven't really tried the PowerPro or TUF lines, but after a while they all seem the same to me.
As far as the line digging into the underlying layers, I really haven't seen much of that. Perhaps the line underneath isn't as tight on the spool as it should be. It's a bigger problem than with mono because there's no stretch.
I've actually gone back to 40 lb mono for trolling. A little bit of stretch is useful when you snag bottom, and the depth charts for some of the rigs I've been using assume this line. After some things Steve Warner told me about his experiences with mono vs. braids, I might start casting mono again as well.
Chris
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